Curl Blog : December 2007

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Today, December 9th., 2007, our friend and colleague Marc Orchant passed away at 2:56pm Pacific time, after fighting a massive heart attack just seven days ago. He never regained consciousness during this period. Our mutual friend Oliver Starr reported this sad news at his blog: http://owstarr.com/marc-orchant-updates-and-information/

I met Marc two years ago at Enterprise 2.0 conference, when both of us were helping Foldera. Since then he became a great friend. I introduced him to Curl earlier this year after our launch at Web 2.0 Expo in San Francisco. He showed a lot of interest and excitement on Curl's potential as a major technology disruptor. Subsequently, Richard and I coaxed him to help us as the VP of Developer Programs. He played a great role in creating the new developer community site with help from The Last Mile Group. Everyone who met Marc loved him. He educated us with his myriad gadgets - from Nokia devices to the iPhone. His voice is there welcoming the first-time visitors to our developer site.

Marc was a famous blogger with ZDnet followed by his new role at BlogNation. We spent many moments together at Office 2.0 and Web 2.0 Summit. He visited Cambridge site and impressed everyone there with his eloquence and knowledge.

The technology community is flooded with blogposts on this sad news. His fragrant personality and enthusiasm will remain in our hearts as we say goodbye to a dear friend. Let his soul rest in peace.

Sayonara dear friend Marc Orchant.

Jnan

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Technologies Of The Future

Posted by richard Dec 4, 2007

That last keynote at WEBBuilder 2.0 featured Jeffrey Hammond speaking about key trends in Web2.0 adoption in the enterprise. There was lots of really interesting data that makes the compelling case that 2008 will be THE infection point in the adoption of Web2.0 in the enterprise. Regarding Web2.0 adoption Jeffrey's message was clear:

"The Future is NOW"

Through his research and discussion with clients and vendors he predicts a "perfect storm" as changes in workforce, software, business process and design collide.

One of the key drivers is 70-80% of GenYers create content and use Internet and mobile apps in all their interactions - virtual and real. As they enter the work force their expectations of a productive environment will drive change faster then ever before. Some other interesting points.

  • 47% of surveyed CIOs see Web2.0 as more than a passing fad
  • 70-80% GenXers and GenYers are creators of content as compared to only 12% for Boomers
  • 1 out of 12 employees is blogging
  • The Web has brought people closer - In his research Jeffrey uses Linkedin and he has never looked up a person that was less than 3 degrees away. Remember the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...
  • Web2.0 is is creating the 4th major programming model - Dynamic applications - these are assembled "just in time" Mashups from parts that are ready to use. This is the process savvy mashup.
  • 32% of enterprises are using or considering RIA

All in all there is a lot of positive trends that say it will be a good year for RIA adoption and Curl.

I asked Jeffery to send me the slides and will follow-up with a more thoughtful post after the conference.

Richard

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The New Silverlight 2.0

Posted by jnan Dec 4, 2007

I listened to Billy Hollis from Microsoft describing Silverlight for business applications this morning. He started with an interesting statement - I am here to help you defect to client-side development.

He spent first few minutes talking about the decoupling of business logic from the UI. He showed a client stack with multiple UI (Forms-based, browser-based and mobile interface) and multi-transport bindings. Then he explained state-based architecture (primarily to the HTML developers deep in statelessness). He was making the case for "why Silverlight". He emphasized that Silverlight is a miniature version of CLR (Common Language Runtime). It is a highly productive development framework with multi-language support and rich class library of functionality. The programming model is different than the scripting world, with classes, objects. He suggested development with Visual Studio and Expression Blend.


He showed a demo of a chess game, where JavaScript was the opposing player to Silverlight, and it always lost, due to lack of speed (compiled vs interpretive). Silverlight 1.0 was very basic and lacked many functions, such as a text boxes. Even the new Silverlight 2.0, scheduled for beta in 1Q08 will be termed "immature" with many limitations. In the area of controls, panels, security, 3D, it is behind. It did mention that Adobe Flex is the only competition and gave it higher marks in "maturity", but lower marks on programming model. Hence Flex is unsuitable for business applications, he said.


We have so much functionality in Curl, but no one knows us. I spoke with Billy and suggested to look at Curl. We have at least a six months advantage over Silverlight 2.0 assuming its out by mid-2008. But Microsoft gets away with so little because of its enormous brand name.


To the next session.


Jnan

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Thoughts on WEBBuilder2.0

Posted by richard Dec 4, 2007

It's day 2 at the WEBBuilder 2.0 Conference here in Las Vegas. This is our first time at this conference. Compared to the buzz and hype of Web2.0 Summit and Office2.0 this conference is very low key. Attendees are here to learn in detail about how they can improve their on-line properties. Speakers are not the trend setters but the teachers and doers of the web building world. Sitting next to me is Jeanne Morton from Avon who is here to learn how Avon can improve the way they do business with their partners. Much of Avon's systems are old and the company is very conservative and reluctant to open up to Web2.0 technologies and social networking.

Given the audience, Scott Deitzen's first keynote, a sales pitch for Zimbra seemed off the mark. It is interesting that Zimbra struggled to implement their email application in Ajax - some 250,000 lines of code. To handle off-line they wrote a fat client. Isn't this back to a client-server solution.

There must be a lot of companies like Zimbra that think their only option is Ajax and struggle to make that work. We need to be on a mission to explain there are other RIA options like Curl. Hopefully our work with Forrester will help. We'll see today as Jeffrey Hammond is presenting "Technologies of the Future." I sure hope he mentions Curl.

I thought Mark Lucovsky's presentation on "Interactive Search Applications" was on target for the conference audience. Mark's is currently at Google and his background includes more than a decade at Microsoft. Microsoft understands better than any company how to talk to developers and Mark showed that competence in his delivery. Google's view of the lowest level of web developer is "someone that can cut and paste." This is indeed lowering the bar but you can immediately see the power in that paradigm. Mark went through a host of Google Ajax routines that any one can cut and paste into their web page and create sophisticated full function web applications. Google is now creating wizards that prompt you for defining parameters then generates the java code for the function. From there you simply cut and paste and viola - your web mashup! We should look at doing something similar with our Ajax wrapper for Curl functions.

On to Jeffrey's presentation.

Richard


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I am here with Richard at WebBuilder 2.0 in Las Vegas. Monday was the first day. There are about 200 people, mostly developers and this is the second year of this conference. The first keynote was given by Scott Dietzen, President and CTO of Zimbra (now part of Yahoo). According to Scott, RIA only stands for Ajax and imporvements. Zimbra is one of the largest Ajax applications (over 200K Lines of Code). It's all Javascript, CSS, DOM. It's funny to hear about new trends in bringing "offline Ajax" and better security. The dreaded word in security is memory leaks in browser-land. He demonstrated the key mash-up features in Zimbra. Now the question is what would Yahoo do with Zimbra in future, which is an alternative to Microsoft Outlook (Open source, Web 2.0, and SaaS are its claims). Time will tell. Scott said Rich Internet Application is Javascript and Ajax and big players like Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and Amazon have backed this big time. Ajax challenges include - browser incompatibilities, tooling, security, performance, and offline - all relevant to Enterprise scale RIA.

The afternoon keynote was by Mark Lucovsky, director of engineering at Google. Mark spent his time describing the Interactive Search Application and gave several examples of how Google's news, map, video, etc are deployed by many sites (via Google API) such as Time magazine, Entertainment Weekly, The New York Times. He lowered the bar by saying anyone who provides an RSS feed is a conetnt publisher and anyone who reads a page is contents consumer. So he is addressing a vast audience. He also mentioned the need for a Universal API for Web 2.0 (Scott also mentioned that).

There was an interesting talk by Coach Wei, CTO at Nexaweb ( a Boston company). He described the basics of RIA technologies. His positioning on simple browser-based approach to a full desktop approach was similar to our positioning.

My talk was rescheduled to Monday from Tuesday. So instead of the last talk in the last day, mine was the last talk on the first day. Because of the timing, the attendance was disappointing. But I did talk about our theme of enterprise scale RIA and Curl's positioning. I also described the results of our benchmark study between Curl, Ajax, and Flex.

More later.

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I'm here at Web Builder 2.0 in Las Vegas and just heard the news that Marc suffered a massive heart attack Sunday morning. Oliver Starr, his good friend and fellow blogger at Blognation has posted details here.

Of course we are all in complete shock. Our best wishes and prayers go out to Marc and his family.


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